Christian or Christ-follower – brief follow-up


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(This is a short postscript to my post about the terms Christian or Christ-follower)

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At the close of The Pilgrim Church, E.H. Broadbent offered a “Timeline Of Some Key Events (29 – 1917 A.D.).” After this, he wrote:

The following is a list (in the order of their appearance in the book) of names given to those throughout Church history who desired only to be known by the names given in the Word of God to all to trust alone in the Lord Jesus: “believers” emphasizing their faith in Christ; “brethren” pointing to their nearness to Christ; “disciples” speaking of their following after and learning from Christ; “saints” reminding them of their separation from the world and to Him; and “Christians” (perhaps first used in scorn) to point out their eternal link with Christ.

Cathars, Puritans, Novations, Priscillianists, Paulicians, Thonraks, Bogomils, Bulgarians, Patarenes, Albigenses, Nazarenes, Nestorians, Petrobrussians, Henricians, Good Men, Poor Men of Lyons, Waldenses, Vaudois, Evangelic, Spirituali, Passagini, Josepini, Arnaldistae, Speronistae, Weavers, Beghards, Beghines, Brethren, The Poor in Life, Apostles, Schwestrionen, The Poor, Hussites, Taborites, Utraquists, Calixtines, Bohemian Brethren, Jednota Bratrska, Unitas Fratrum, Anabaptists, Mennonites, Mennonite Brethren, Lollards, Wycliffites, Picards, Corner-Preachers, Deceivers, Heretics, Bush Preachers, Sectaries, Hutists, Gospellers, Those of the Religion, Huguenots, Independents, Congregationalists, Baptists, Brownists, Presbyterians, Particular Baptists, Quakers, Friends, Evangelical, Pietists, Spenerites, Quietists, Moravians, Methodists, Stonettes, Campbellites, Disciples, Churches of Christ, Stundists, Evangelical Christians, Plymouth Brethren Exclusives, Open Brethren.

I realize that there are some doctrinal problems with some of these, but still the list is important and interesting. 

There is another name for the Christian faith itself that I recently learned about while reading The Edict of Fontainbleau (Revocation of the Edict of Nantes), in preparation for writing about François Fénelon. This edict repudiated the former edict of toleration of Protestantism in France. It referred to the Christian faith using only initials – RPR, which stand for: 

Religion prétendue réformée = “the religion called the Reformed” that is, the allegedly  Reformed religion. 

Of huge interest is the fact that when I entered the French into Google Chrome’s French to English translator, to be sure I had things right, it translated the French into the initials from the revocation of the edict of toleration – RPR. Babylon translated the key word in this term as ‘allegedly’.

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37 thoughts on “Christian or Christ-follower – brief follow-up

  1. Interesting stuff, Maria. Another one lately, “a follower of the Way” which is also, used by some moderate or left-wing Muslims. Then things get really confusing…did you know that Pakistan and countries in Africa fell to stealth jihad or jihad by the pen, which was a subversive attack on Hinduism. The goal is to cause a paradigm shift in the foundations of the targeted religion. Something interesting to think about.

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  2. It’s been a long day. I re-read my comment and I’m not sure it makes sense…what I was trying to convey is how hard it is to express spiritual truths and be clearly, understood. I think even when language stays the same, the concepts people attach to the same words change. Like talking to a Muslim who talks about Jesus and calls him or herself ‘a follower of the Way’. If they don’t identify their faith it’s easy to assume they are a Christian by another ‘title’ but they hold and entirely different concept. It’s also, interesting that there are those aware of this and use it to their advantage even to the point of taking over a country. There. I think that was better? :0)

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  3. Pam, I didn’t know this about this group of moderate left-wing Muslims – this is sad but not surprising. The way may be the earliest of terms for our faith, appearing in Acts as this, that, and the way. So now it too is stolen and corrupted.
    Acts 24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:
    Very amazing about stealth jihad by the pen. They converted idolaters to another form of idolatry. Much to think about, yes!

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  4. It is sad, Tom! Catholicism was so linked to national identity that the French Catholics killed French Protestants to preserve this identity, and incited the Wars of Religion. The church and state was one in France. Oddly – was it a judgment of God? – Catholics became a target when French Masons and rationalists fomented rebellion and murdered the symbolic head of this Catholic Kingdom and priests and nuns. History is worse than we know mst be the conclusion.

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  5. So, are you rested, Pam? It sounds as though your day was intense.
    Your comment did make sense. It spoke to the utter confusion of the Adversary’s dominion. Yes, language changes, different meanings are attached to the same words. Another consequence of Babel?
    Yes, until you speak with someone more indepth you can mistake their views. Jihad of the pen is frightening. Confusion is very frightening. But belonging to Jesus Christ, God in the flesh, Who is not the author of confusion, we find the peace and truth and blessed unity of Biblical doctrine to be our rock of defense and to steady us and fill us.
    :0)

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  6. Amadiyya (sp?) is famous for this approach and while they are heavily persecuted in Muslim countries, they have a safe haven in the U.S., which I’m glad for because no one should be persecuted, and many attribute the Civil Rights Movement to them. They aren’t as prevalent now but still very active. You will be fascinated if you read about them. As a Christian and westerner, I actually believe stealth jihad has much greater power to end our civilization than terrorism. It is very active in the U.S. now.

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  7. I’m going through a tough time physically. I had to be out in the cold yesterday and it was very taxing. I’m on a course of Prednisone now which has the power to alter ‘me’ so, I’m closely monitoring myself maybe, too close. Next week it is supposed to warm back up into the sixties. Still not warm enough for me to just be outside (which I crave terribly) but I should feel a bunch better. Amen to the last half of your comment. I can’t imagine how confusing it must be to people who don’t know Jesus, the true Jesus, Son of God and Son of Man, who gave His life in sacrifice for my sin. He will keep us stable and safe in God’s Hands until this time of turmoil passes. God bless and keep you always, Maria.

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  8. Thank you for such a blessing, Pam! Hope you start feeling better shortly! It’s obvious from your writing that you appreciate the Lord’s outdoors. It won’t be too long till you can experience its joys again. If not next week then in a few weeks – you’ve mentioned that you live in the high country – sounds cold but mostly lovely. Our Ohio winter has been mild so far but with enough damp chill to make us ache.
    Yes, the Lord is keeping us safe in this turmoil. He is our hiding place and shelter!
    God bless and keep you always too!!

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  9. Stealth jihadists – that makes sense. It’s the way the Society of Jesus’ militant priesthood operates too. It’s effective because people can deceive without being troubled in their conscience – the end justfies the means to them, and those they deceive encounter very zealous attractive ‘actors’. All of this is too big and frightening for us little peoples to take without the Lord.
    I will look up this organization. Since our previous conversation I have learned more about dominionism.

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  10. My husband is from Pennsylvania so, I know how your winters are. I used to love the cold. Now, it has to be at least, 70 degrees before I can stay outdoors. I call myself an Iguana woman.:0) When summer rolls around, I may not come inside at all!

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  11. Good stuff Maria. You and I have talked some about what I believe The Bible teaches about the local church, so no new things to add on that count. That also includes our thoughts on church and state. State run religion is in nobody’s best interest. Of course, law based on God’s Word is a great thing, and provides a moral basis for law in general. Having said that, I would be the last person on the planet to advocate an theocracy. As you have pointed out, that fails every time. Because whoever holds the power kills everybody else. Not to sound flip, but being quite the Baptist, I would never want a “Baptist state.”

    @ Pam, sure praying for you to get better, Winter must just be awful. I’d hate to be stuck inside all of the time.

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  12. Dear summer person :0), I know you’re eager for the comfort of the warmer seasons. We used to play in the snow on three-wheelers for our anniversary in February, going onto the fire trails in the woods. No more… Even our pup goes outside all bundled up.
    Can you take your computer outdoors?

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  13. yes, but I think it’s here – even that it has been here for centuries. But you know I believe this. Maybe Jesus’ return is much closer than even Rome imagines – for He will come at an hour we think not He told us. Good, forgive me but – may He save His people out of that system and all false things and then destroy them in His holy justice. Sorry for being so frank but I am looking for His glorious returning which includes this – right? Rescue and judgment.

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  14. Yes, I can use it on my deck. I love to garden and hope I will be up to playing in my flowers this year. We’re in the process of trying to downsize and move into town so, it could be my last summer here. We’ve been here over twenty years. But I’m looking forward to having things more manageable.

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  15. Well, being a Baptist, I hope nobody is insulted by that comment, as I am insulting myself LOL. I see many problems with a Baptist state, just as I see many with a Pentecostal state, a Church of Christ state, and on it goes.

    I agree that God’s moral law is a great basis for secular law. It actually is the basis for our secular law, in fact. Why is it illegal to kill and steal? Well, that started with God, right?

    Now, a Baptist state. Allow me an example. In a “Baptist” state one would be required by law to be immersed in water to be Baptized. Now, while I believe that whole hardheartedly to be the way it should be done, and that no other way is Biblical, I certainly would not want that to be secular law. What, are we going to put the sprinklers in jail? The state, and religion…big fail.

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  16. I agree but I think we will go through another period like that when Rome and the Ottomans had tight reigns on everything. All of it will fall along with everything else man has designed to put himself in the place of God and rule over each other. I too keep looking up.

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  17. Oh, no – no insult taken! We worship in a small independent Baptist assembly too. Yes, His moral law as written by Himself and in people’s hearts also (a law unto themselves). Yes, this law against such things as stealing, murdering, and perjury started with God Himself, showing His holy nature and what pleases Him.
    Oh, yes – baptism by immersion, that would be in place in a Baptist state when it used to be forbidden and meant death. The state and religion together? That’s been done in various places and was exceedingly harmful. The Mother of this, though, is Rome.

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  18. Yes, Constantine…ugh. Enough said huh?

    Maria, I have to share something totally off topic, but on the topic of Baptists. Before I was saved I didn’t care much for Christians in general, and Baptists in particular. And especially, especially Baptist preachers.

    So, the irony of me being a Baptist is very deep LOL, and the fact that many of my closets friends are Baptist preachers or deacons. God certainly has a sense of humor.

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  19. Constantine – ugh? I’ve read that because of the change in the meaning of baptism, that it removed all sin, he waited to be baptized until on his death bed, and then was baptized by an Arian bishop whom he had promoted. He waffled, was confused, etc. The Lord knows who are his though. Truly unless we look to Jesus Christ alone, and His Word, we will be deeply distressed and confused. His Word, pure, sweet, clear.

    Proverbs 18:4

    4 The words of a man’s mouth are as deep waters,
    and the wellspring of wisdom as a flowing brook.

    It is funny that this would happen to you, Wally, and yes, He must have a sense of what is truly funny since He made us. Wally the despiser became the born-again Baptist devoted to the Lord. God is good!!

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  20. I would contribute: pretendue, Latin, purports (as in your alleged), pretends to be (this the more, pretendue), passing for…As in saying that they must not be viewed as the reformed, as if they had more respect as a competitor for the Reformed Christians, more accredited.

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  21. Yes, purported Reformed! Or alleged or supposed. All of these adjectives show the Catholic contempt and dislike at that time for using the name that these Christians called themselves, those of the Reformed faith. So they were designated by initials, RPR, and I think Huguenot originally was given to them by Catholics.

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  22. Hi Maria,
    Very interesting. All deceivers operate in this fashion, whether they be of a different religious persuasion or the come from the corrupted visible church, all deceivers deceive with impunity since they are following the great liar and deceiver, Satan. May we stand fast for the truth and steadfast in our faith in Jesus Christ resting upon the revelation given to us by God in His Holy, Inspired, Infallible, Inerrant, Preserved Word, the Bible by God the Holy Spirit. Only then will we be apprised of all the wiles of the enemy and combat his evil deceits and deceivers. Amen!

    14…that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning of craftiness of deceitful plotting, 15 but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the Head–Christ–16 from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love. Ephesians 4:14-16

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  23. Revelation 12:11
    And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

    He Who is holy and true is able to make us stand, Eliza! The Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, God in the flesh! And though receivers of every kind sin with impunity now, their judgement is not sleeping! Praise Him Who takes no delight in the death of the wicked but rather that they turn from their sin!

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  24. Amen! However, His judgment does not slumber and is sure.

    But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingers not, and their damnation slumbers not. 2 Peter 2:1-3

    May we be faithful to the end. Amen!

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